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Threesomes, Runway Models, and the power of frames (part II)

Please click here to read part I. This post won’t make any sense without it.

(Continued)

I invited a bunch of my friends (ah, the joy of mass text messages) to a bustling outdoor bar/café that would have great social energy, drinks, and food. (i.e., no excuses to have to go somewhere else). I invited mostly girls, but also brought one of the students from the private advanced bootcamp along so he could see how things should look.

One of the girls who showed up was Karen, who I hadn’t seen in six months. I must have texted her 10 times in the past six months with no response. A guy who doesn’t have girls might have gotten frustrated or deleted her number. To me, it didn’t matter. I still thought she was cool, even if she was busy or not answering, and it doesn’t cost me anything to keep inviting her. So when she showed up, there was no “edge” – no under the surface wondering why she hadn’t been responding before. I was just happy to have her as part of my night and enjoy the moment without worrying about the past or the future. That’s what guys who have women do.

Lara was still the woman I was interested in. Karen and I had hooked up enough times before, I could take it or leave it. Whenever I am in a group situation with my friends and a woman I am interested in, I follow the same pattern (WRITE THIS DOWN)

• Put the girl you’re interested in beside you
• All the touching goes to her (ideally under the table)
• All the conversation goes to everyone else

Lara was resisting my under the table touching at first. When did she start reciprocating? About five minutes after she realized that I’d hooked up with both of the other women at the table. Don’t confuse this with Pre-selection. Pre-selection is an attraction switch – one of the eight revealed in Magic Bullets – but I was well past Attraction at this point. No, what this conveyed was that I was a guy who had women in my life and that I “get it”.

I wasn’t jealous or controlling with the girls I’ve hooked up with. I just enjoyed their company, and them mine. Even though Karen and I were having boiling sexual tension, both of the other women looked on in approval as Lara and I started connecting physically.

After a while of that, I sealed the deal when I leaned in to whisper in her ear:

Me: What kind of women are you attracted to? [I’d already established that she has hooked up with women in the past]
Lara: [Lists some qualities]
Me: What do you think of Karen?
Lara: She’s beautiful…etc.
Me: Well, no promises, but I’ll see if I can convince her to join us when we go home later

I want to make this clear – up to this point we’d never kissed, never really talked about sex, and certainly never discussed going home and having sex that night. But when she passively accepted the frame that I set with the last line above, the question changed from “where is this going tonight?” to “will this be a regular hookup tonight or will it be a threesome”?

It’s similar – but far more effective – to when I used to joke around with women on dates about whether the night was going to end with us having sex once or twice. Either choice I win, and even said jokingly, as long as she doesn’t object, it helps establish the frame.

[This “joking” to introduce sexual themes is covered in more detail with more examples by superstars Braddock and Kisser in their interview on Sexualization]

It seems like a little thing, but it’s not. As I always emphasize when I teach, the dividing line between a woman sleeping with you or not sleeping with you can be exceedingly narrow. Lara was fully intending to have a drink with me, flirt, maybe kiss a bit, but leave it at that. This changed the game.

Once I’d told Lara that I’d try to get Karen home with us, I fortified that frame a couple of times with “no promises, but I’ll see what I can do”. And then of course I started shifting my attention to Karen. Who had seen Lara clearly into me and me responding, etc. After I had made out with her, Karen said the punchline that is the reason why I wrote this article in the first place:

“I love you because you’re such a whore”

I don’t know if it was just because I’d gone from heavy touching with Lara to making out with her – without embarrassment – or because I’d hooked up with her friends (and been discreet enough never to mention it to her…she found out from them, not me), or just because I was conveying that attitude, but it was interesting because Karen changed at that moment.

Gone was the woman who had been more or less typical with me up to that point. Now she was openly talking her sexual experiences, letting me touch her in public in ways that I had had to struggle to do in private before, etc., etc. It’s not that Karen changed. It’s that in her mind, I’d changed. I’d gone from a cool, fun, but normal guy in her mind to a guy that has women. Who “gets it”.

• Guys who have women in their life are safe. They won’t freak out when a woman doesn’t call back or has to cancel.
• Guys who have women in their life aren’t jealous or controlling,.
• Guy who have women in their life aren’t judgmental. They understand that women are complex and multi-dimensional and can’t simply be labeled virgins or whores.

Closing the deal from that point on was just basic logistical mechanics.

Look, I’m going to be straight with you here. You’re not going to be having threesomes with two 10s as soon as you read Magic Bullets and the Love Systems Routines Manual (though some of the sexualization routines in PUA Routines Manual Volume 2 are pretty intense). You will need to practice, and it will take some time to integrate it all. A PUA bootcamp is a giant-ass shortcut to getting good instantly, but you’re still going to have to practice some.

But what I will say is this: There’s nothing in this particular pickup that isn’t taught at a bootcamp. In fact, I’d even say that there’s nothing in this pickup that couldn’t have been pieced together from a combination of Magic Bullets, both Routines Manuals, and a couple of interview series volumes to cover any sticking points or advanced subjects on the way.

So if you’re sitting around wanting to get better with women – at least meet me halfway. Get ahold of the basic information you need to succeed. Here are the key resources:

Love Systems Bootcamps – our live training

Magic Bullets – learn the foundational pickup artist (PUA) skills

Love Systems Routines Manual (Vol 1) – from pick up lines to seduction, never run out of things to say

Love Systems Routines Manual (Vol 2) – even better than the original with more bonuses including the Love Systems Triad.

Magic Audio Pills - use these to solve specific problems or to grow your skills in a specific area

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Comments

  1. Polanova says:

    This was an awesome report thanks for posting it Savoy! I appreciate all you do with Lovesystems!

  2. Awesome!!!!

  3. Archangel says:

    "After this comment, why not have a beer?"

    Love where your head's at Nick.

    While the threesomes I've pulled haven't nearly been of that caliber, there is that essential element that you allude to that I see in myself: Assuming the close and facilitating the girl "committee" to validate your discretion.

    Thanks.

  4. Oh for the love of God.

  5. Haha, love it. A great inspiration.

  6. Sickk. Highly inspired by this.

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